Doc,
Maybe those Wales reds are quicker than Joe Calzaghe or something; I guess I'm not understanding what your after. I night hunt and actually use a very hot load, not the one I posted (thought that might make a good fox load for someone since people seem to like those slow inny and outy scenarios on fox), and the results are good up close or far with correct shot placement. I don't head shoot unless it's a must, just the same old boiler room shot, night or day.
I guess the main difference would be distance, it's not hard to get them close in the day or night around here, when I say far, 200 yards at night would be far.
What makes it tough to close the gap on those reds in Wales, why are the shots so far, especially at night?
Oh, and the 20 incher is a Sako Vixen in .17/223 which I've managed 3890fps out of with half inch groups. The little baby is a dream to carry, although I don't use her much anymore since the value has been skyrocketing. John-Henry kind of indirectly convinced me to buy her and it was a damn good decision.
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