oilfieldTrash
Apostle of Humility
Reged: Nov 16 2008
Posts: 3
Loc: north central ND
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Often, when I use a howl, I will get a response but they don't come in. I have tried picking up and moving in closer, and this has worked once in a while. Any other suggestions. The majority of the time when I have one come in to a howl, they will come in silently.
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DanS
Crown Killer
Reged: Sep 14 2003
Posts: 2248
Loc: St. Louis, MO
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I don't howl much, except for when I've been drinking, and then only if there's a full moon. 
Seriously though, I really don't howl alot, and when the coyotes come to it they are usually silent for me also. The really verbal ones don't cooperate much with me.
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Okiebones
Whirling Dervish
Reged: Dec 23 2008
Posts: 33
Loc: West Central OK
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Agree with what Dan said... I generally don't howl alot as a means of calling,per se, but if I get an early enough start I will make several stops along the way out to where I am going to do my first stand and make some locator howls . Generally, at different sections that are a few miles apart . Gives me an idea of what sections might be holding coyotes and it's a good confidence booster for me.
So , generally if I have coyotes answering the howl; I do nothing . I make a note of where they are and either approach for a calling stand or drive on and hit that spot later.
Clear as mud ?
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Edited by Okiebones (Fri Jan 02 2009 08:15 AM)
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John-Henry
King Hell Dictator
Reged: Sep 25 2000
Posts: 4438
Loc: McNeal, AZ
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I have a little bit different technique; when coyotes howl, either in response to a distress call or to a howl that I've made, I usually commence to making some noise to see if I can't trigger an aggressive or curious response.
Lots of people assume that coyotes howling at you means that you're "busted" and you might as well move on, but I've heard coyotes howl plenty of times when I know damned right well they couldn't know that I was there, because their location relative to mine pecluded them hearing, seeing, or smelling me when I approached.
What I generally do is make some other/different coyote vocalizations; if I triggered them with a lone howl I'll sometimes shift to a series of challenge barks and short choppy howls, and I might follow that with a pounding hard series of pup squeals, and I might shift the electronic call to something like a coyote/'coon or coyote pup/gray fox fight on top of that, on the theory that maybe I can overload the howler and make his feet take him to me even though his head is saying "don't go there."
Look at it this way; you don't have anything to lose by spending another five or ten minutes fooling around, particularly if you've done everything else correctly when it comes to setting your stand, so why not give it a whirl (particularly if you're calling with a tolling dog; that's one more inducement for that old coyote to abandon caution and roll on in).
I've had coyotes show up on-stand 45 minutes after I started making a bunch of noise like that, and I've never been able to tell exactly what sequence or sound triggers the appearance, but I've seen it enough times that I normally piddle around some, just on the off-chance that I might get one or more to move in my direction.
John-Henry
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matthew salm
Arch Deacon
Reged: Mar 16 2001
Posts: 600
Loc: Mauston, WI
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In the last few years I've used the howl a bit more here in the frozen tundra and normally I don't get much of a response as far as howls. BUT many times after the dying rabbit blues have played for awhile with nothing going going on I'll wait a few minutes, throw some howls out, and after a bit more time has played out switch to some interactive sounds as J-H mentioned along with a few squeals of some sort. I'd say my percentage of calling in a coyote at stands has risen pretty dramatically since then. As J-H said, it's seems a bit of sensory overload, but it's been working. Might have something to do with me sticking out stands longer, up to an hour even, or me knowing the calling areas better, but in the last few years it seems I've been fortunate to call in a coyote more often than not. Granted I haven't hunted but 3-4 nights each winter lately and usually choose my calling times when things just seem 'right'.
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Okiebones
Whirling Dervish
Reged: Dec 23 2008
Posts: 33
Loc: West Central OK
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I'm going to have to give 'sensory bombardment' a try.
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