AHV
Apostle of Humility
Reged: Jan 03 2001
Posts: 11
Loc: Wrightwood, CA USA
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I have been using my .17 Remington for several years. It shoots excellent, but unfortunately I live in California and hunt sometimes in the new lead free condor zone.
I suspect it's going to be a while before we see non lead ammo produced for the .17. I called several ammo manufactures. Nothing yet.
So, maybe an excuse to buy a new gun. I'm thinking the 204 or a 22 250.
I salvage the fur, so that's why I like the .17.
Suggestions on caliber and rifle manufactures???
Thanks,
Al
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Moon Dog
Administrator / Grand Ayatollah
Reged: Sep 28 2000
Posts: 1422
Loc: Mc Neal, AZ
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AHV,
ALL of the major and most of the minor manufacturers of rifles chamber in .204 Ruger and .22-250, take your pick.
If you have not already considered it I suggest you check out the Calhoon website and consider either the 19 calhoon or the 19 Badger. I have friends that shoot these for called coyotes and are impressed by the lethality and the fur friendliness of the cartridges.
If you stick to your first choices I would recommend the .204 over the .22-250 for called coyotes under 150 yards. I would recommend a
cz 527 in the "American" sporter barrel contour as an almost ideal calling rifle.
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Moon Dog
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AHV
Apostle of Humility
Reged: Jan 03 2001
Posts: 11
Loc: Wrightwood, CA USA
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Moon Dog,
Thanks for your reply. I talked to Calhoon and unfortunetely the .19 is not going to help my non lead challenge. He suggested the .204 as the next best solution.
Thanks,
Al
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Moon Dog
Administrator / Grand Ayatollah
Reged: Sep 28 2000
Posts: 1422
Loc: Mc Neal, AZ
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Well,
There you go, I guess I dropped the line of your post about non lead bullets.
California is a pretty good size market, I can't believe that Remington/Winchester/Hornady, et al won;t bring out a suitable choice in non lead bullets.
Might have to use a slower velocity load to keep it in bounds of fur friendly.
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Moon Dog
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AHV
Apostle of Humility
Reged: Jan 03 2001
Posts: 11
Loc: Wrightwood, CA USA
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All that I spoke with say they are working on it, but of course they will start with the most popular calibers.
Barnes makes a 26 grain VG that I can use for the .204.
Remington came out with a new model 7 predator that weighs only 7 lbs, and all my Remington rifles shoot great, so I'll probably go that route for now.
The info I read on the Calhoon Badger sounds very interesting and I may pick one up later.
Thanks Again,
Al
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disco1946
Mouse Dipper
Reged: Jul 01 2007
Posts: 675
Loc: Mesa, Arizona
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AHV
They ain't never gonna come up with no Lead free .17 cal bullets, so maybe you oughta send me that .17 Remmy and I will send you a hunnert dollars american so's It won't be no total loss for you.
Dave   
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Friends don't let Friends shoot Rugers
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AHV
Apostle of Humility
Reged: Jan 03 2001
Posts: 11
Loc: Wrightwood, CA USA
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You may be right about no lead free .17 bullets, so I'll use it when I hunt in Arizona!
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Mark P
Administrator
Reged: Jun 21 2005
Posts: 1020
Loc: Arizona
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If it were me I'd ask the game and fish dept if a ".172 caliber 25gr Berger non-MEF bullet" satisfied the requirements of the lead free zone. You might get lucky and get the right goober over there that will read "non-MEF" and since they don't know what that means, give you the go ahead. Then just carry that paper in your pocket and shoot 'em up.
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First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
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kevthebassman
Disciple
Reged: Feb 04 2007
Posts: 321
Loc: Eureka, MO
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Hell mark, now you know better'n that. The California Department of Game and Fish is located in the broom closet of the PETA headquarters. One pimple-faced anorexic pre-pubescent teenager (who has watched "Bambi" 4,000 times) runs the whole show.
Ok, maybe not, but some of their policies sure seem that way. 
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Saddle
Druid
Reged: Sep 26 2003
Posts: 159
Loc: Tucson, Arizona Territory
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Barnes makes a 37 grain non lead 22 cal bullet I have been using in my triple duece for some time. It is very fur friendly and more than accurate enough for called coyotes. Although I live in Arizona I, like you, hunt with a friend in Calif. so I developed a load with this bullet to meet any requirments we might face. I did not use this bullet on prairie dogs this year in my 22-250 but would feel confortable if I had to although I think it would shorten my effective range somewhat.
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