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Bent_Crosshairs
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Gun Building
      #1893307 - Thu Jun 05 2008 06:17 PM

Are there websites that you can order parts from so that you can piece together a rifle. Kind of like a build it yourself type deal?? Or would I be better off just buying the rifle from a dealer or a pro gun builder? I am sure that the price either way will be the same. I am looking for a .17 Fireball or very close to it. Thanks for all of the help and critizum I am about to recieve.

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Re: Gun Building [Re: Bent_Crosshairs]
      #1893309 - Thu Jun 05 2008 07:19 PM

There is only one bolt action rifle that I know of that you could, with a little knowledge and mail order parts, "roll your own". That is the Savage 110 series of actions. The action, considered and designated a firearm by ATF, would be acquired from a dealer or a private person as a donor rifle. Once you have that you can get everything else you need from Sharp Shooters Supplies on the internet. You will have to see what they have available in chamberings but since the .17 Fireball is a legitimate cartridge now if they don't have it I assume that they soon will.

If I were acquiring my first "custom" rifle I would order one of James Calhoons rifles in 19 Badger, but thats me and I change my calling rifles about as frequently as my underwear.

You will enjoy whatever you decide on I'm sure. And you are right about the costs. In my experience, rifles put together with parts are more expensive in the end than just buying what you want from a quality maker like Calhoon or Cooper, etc.

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Re: Gun Building [Re: Moon Dog]
      #1893329 - Sat Jun 07 2008 09:34 AM

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If I were acquiring my first "custom" rifle I would order one of James Calhoons rifles in 19 Badger, but thats me and I change my calling rifles about as frequently as my underwear.





OK, so when are you getting your 19 Badger from Calhoon, even though it's not your first custom?

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Re: Gun Building [Re: DanS]
      #1893338 - Sun Jun 08 2008 02:08 PM

If I could pry loose the money I'd order one today.

Looks like i'll have to save up though since I don't have any I want to sell. I'm in a heck of a predicament when all my rifles are too good to sell you know it?

Oh well, someone has to be there.

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Re: Gun Building [Re: Bent_Crosshairs]
      #1893434 - Wed Jun 18 2008 02:39 PM

It depends a little on what you are wanting to build. Some companies have threaded chambered barrels that are short chambered so you adjust the headspace. What are you looking to build. Maybe I can help. I have built several guns and have the equipment to do it. I have two .17 firealls that I am finishing right now I just have to send off for blue then finish them, 1 is a 527 CZ and the other is a 599 Rem.

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Re: Gun Building [Re: Moon Dog]
      #1893453 - Sat Jun 21 2008 02:07 PM

Yes, Brownells and Midway USA for starters. Both have websites and also offer large mailing catalogs.

You can build/ piece your own regardless of how much work you want to invest. I just 'pieced' 2 riles by buying NIB, non-current 700 ADL rifles for $350 each, sold parts and bought components online. I'm not equipped to do any barrel fitting/finishing so I had that done by the barrel makers.

Both rifles are just the way I like them and neither exceeded $1,100.


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Re: Gun Building [Re: upd]
      #1893860 - Tue Aug 12 2008 12:13 AM

Quote:

It depends a little on what you are wanting to build. Some companies have threaded chambered barrels that are short chambered so you adjust the headspace. What are you looking to build. Maybe I can help. I have built several guns and have the equipment to do it. I have two .17 firealls that I am finishing right now I just have to send off for blue then finish them, 1 is a 527 CZ and the other is a 599 Rem.




Looking to most likely build a 527 CZ. Just looking at all of the options out there....Thought that it would be cooler to use a "personel" rifle than a "store bought" rifle. Thanks for all of the help!

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Re: Gun Building [Re: Bent_Crosshairs]
      #1893862 - Tue Aug 12 2008 07:30 AM

Hit the pawn shops and the used gun rack look for a beater 527 that has a good action left on it. those are hard to destroy

everything else can be replaced barrel,stock & trigger if you want although I love my BnL's 527 in 204 it has a great set trigger


Elk ridge gun stocks will make you a 95% drop in stock for almost any rifle and you can buy a tool to inlet the barrel from brownells for $25-30 bucks well worth it if you think you will ever do another one

Reamer Rentals will rent you a finish reamer for less than $100 or you can buy one in the caliber of your choice from brownells

the "go" and "no go" gauges are also rentable or about $30 from brownells also in the caliber of your choice.


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Re: Gun Building [Re: odawgp]
      #1893870 - Tue Aug 12 2008 08:29 PM

I just happen to have a friend that works at a pawn shop I will talk to her to she what she has and what she can get!!!

Do the 527's come in many different calibers or one spicific??

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Re: Gun Building [Re: Bent_Crosshairs]
      #1893873 - Wed Aug 13 2008 09:15 AM

Quote:

I just happen to have a friend that works at a pawn shop I will talk to her to she what she has and what she can get!!!

Do the 527's come in many different calibers or one spicific??



CzUSA

AVAILABLE CALIBERS
17 REM
22 HORNET
222 REM
223 REM
204 RUGER
7.62x39MM


NOT ALL MODELS OF THE 527 ARE AVAILABLE IN ALL THOSE CALIBERS

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Bent_Crosshairs
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Re: Gun Building [Re: odawgp]
      #1893877 - Wed Aug 13 2008 10:27 PM

Thank you much I will be on the look out

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Re: Gun Building [Re: Bent_Crosshairs]
      #1893886 - Thu Aug 14 2008 08:40 PM

Last but not least...What marks on the the CZ's so that when I go looking I make sure I get the right firearm.
Manufactures stamps I mean

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Re: Gun Building [Re: Bent_Crosshairs]
      #1893887 - Fri Aug 15 2008 05:47 AM

http://www.danwessonfirearms.com/product_detail.php?id=47

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