Slumbrjack
(Apostle of Humility)
Wed Feb 14 2007 09:25 AM
mating season

I recently talked with a wildlife biologist and she told me that the coyotes are starting to mate and they will not come into a call at this time. I do know that is is harder to get them to come in this time of year but was not sure why. I was wondering if anyone has any info on that??

John-HenryAdministrator
(King Hell Dictator)
Wed Feb 14 2007 09:53 AM
Re: mating season

Well:

Not to be crass, but would you rather fuck or eat?

John-Henry


DanS
(Crown Killer)
Wed Feb 14 2007 11:06 AM
Re: mating season

Depends,
1, With who and
2. or what.



CALOK1
(Flying Missionary Positioner)
Wed Feb 14 2007 12:20 PM
Re: mating season

DanS,

You're too pickey.
To me John-Henry's question was a no brainer.
I would pick door # 1. LOL


tluns
(Whirling Dervish)
Fri Mar 02 2007 07:46 PM
Re: mating season

Try using maple syrup as a cover scent. We all know there is nothing better than a big stack of pancakes after getting some.

Tork
(Apostle of Humility)
Sun Mar 02 2008 09:52 PM
Re: mating season

I put the distress calls away during mating season. Howling is working great up here right now.

dogcollar
(Dervish)
Wed Mar 05 2008 10:02 AM
Re: mating season

Quote:

I put the distress calls away during mating season. Howling is working great up here right now.




And why are you still calling in AB. Reports from all Coyote hunters in that area is they have shut down their operations due to early mating season.

All coyotes are heavily rubbed. Same goes for my area hence I will wait until next December to start shooting them again.

DC


disco1946
(Mouse Dipper)
Sun Apr 06 2008 11:33 AM
Re: mating season

Tork,

If you are still hunting coyotes during breeding season, YOU are on the WRONG board.

Re: Read this before posting.

Dave


Bench
(Apostle of Humility)
Fri Apr 18 2008 12:08 PM
Re: mating season

SEX above all else!!

TA17rem
(Whirling Dervish)
Sat Apr 19 2008 07:36 PM
Re: mating season

Quote:

If you are still hunting coyotes during breeding season, YOU are on the WRONG board



There you go shorting the hunting season, and the whole time i thought we had to stop for raiseing of the pups.


Tackdriver
(Big Hairy Gun Nut)
Sat Apr 19 2008 08:28 PM
Re: mating season

Quote:

Well:

Not to be crass, but would you rather fuck or eat?

John-Henry




Both, at the same time.


Whirlybird
(Apostle of Humility)
Tue Jun 03 2008 03:42 PM
Re: mating season

Hey Disco,
Don't coyotes kill each other during the mating season?? What's the difference??
Show me one locale anywhere in North America where coyotes are shrinking in population and I'll buy into your premise, until then your opinion is just that, another opinion of which there seems to be a lot of. Unfortunately, not too many of the opinions are proven fact!!
Cheers


draculasbrother
(Bishop)
Tue Jun 03 2008 11:08 PM
Re: mating season

Twirly, the problem is the man that pays the bills here has another opinion that you are in dire conflict with. Right or wrong, he pays the bills, it is his house, he sets the norms for it and he does not like people to come in and crap on the floor. Please behave within the established ethics of this board. You will find them explained where it says "READ THIS BEFORE POSTING". They are pretty simple instructions for fitting in around here. Sort of like pouring piss out of a boot by reading the instructions on the heel. It also helps if you have a thick skin.

By the way, would you like to cite the reference that states substantial numbers of coyotes are killed by coyotes during the breeding season?
Drac


Whirlybird
(Apostle of Humility)
Thu Jun 05 2008 06:01 AM
Re: mating season

Drac,
It is a biological fact that any male coyote will kill any other coyote trying to breed within his territory, and further, will kill any pups caused as a result of outsider breeding!!
Not to claim being an expert but I have been a bounty hunter for 2 provinces in Canada for many years. At 63 years of age that covers a lot of animals over time. It also covers a lot of study required to fill the bill. Any website shouldn't discourage the truth just because someone doesn't want to acknowledge that truth. Truth and fact will always outweigh old wives tales and perceived perceptions. Further it makes for a better group of hunters and harvesters when reality is applied and not fiction or misconceptions.
I could go a lot further when it comes to calibers of guns but that would be a lost cause simply because there is no scientific evidence that one is better than the other; only perceptions!
Cheers
Whirly


varmitbuster
(Dervish)
Thu Jun 05 2008 09:31 AM
Re: mating season

"quote" It is a biological fact that any male coyote will kill any other coyote trying to breed within his territory, and further, will kill any pups caused as a result of outsider breeding!! "quote"

There ya go fellas. *Biological fact* it is then. You heard it first right here.


ChrisA
(Arch Deacon)
Thu Jun 05 2008 09:50 AM
Re: mating season

Twirly,
I think you make a pretty broad assumtion. I'm pretty sure certian circumstances will prevent "any" male coyote from killing "any" other coyote. Say the intruder is bigger, faster and stronger, then what?

Chris


draculasbrother
(Bishop)
Thu Jun 05 2008 03:18 PM
Re: mating season

What provinces in Canada pay a bounty on coyotes?

draculasbrother
(Bishop)
Thu Jun 05 2008 04:18 PM
Re: mating season

Twirly,

I am really curious about the biological fact that male coyotes kill any other breeding coyote. Drive him out of the territory, yes (perhaps) but I know of no evidence that suggests this commonly results in death. I also do not know of any evidence that males search out dens to kill coyote pups. There seems to be a dearth of information about these biological facts. In fact there seems to be considerable cooperation among coyotes at times to raise litters of pups. The following is the report of one study:

"Pack associates are either the grown pups from previous litters or are unrelated coyotes which were accepted into the pack by the mated pair (Bekoff & Wells 1980). If coyote density is high and emigration rates are low than a larger percentage of pack associates will be related to the mated pair (Andelt 1985). These additional members aid in obtaining resources, defending resources, and raising pups within the pack. In addition, pack associates increase the pack’s access to larger ungulate prey because there are more individuals to coordinate better hunting strategies (Geffen et al. 1996). Although the aid pack associates contribute to the pack may be beneficial, they are not critical for the mated pair’s pups to survive. This is demonstrated by mated pairs that successfully raise their pups without the aid of pack associates. The relationship between pack associates and the mated pair is an example of alloparenting. The pack associates receive more benefits than the mated pair or pups gain from them. First, they gain the protection of the pack. This is important to their survival because transient living, their other option besides being a part of the pack, has been shown to have much higher mortality rates. Secondly, the pack associate has a chance of inheriting the territory if one of the parents is sick or is killed and they are able to secure the alpha position. The third benefit is the valuable experience they gain by helping to raise the mated pair’s pups which will help them raise their own pups in the future (Bekoff & Wells 1980; Geffen et al. 1996; Kamler & Gipson 2000; Gese 2001). Since the parents receive little to no necessary aid from the pack associates, their helping behavior is considered to be selfish cooperation."

It coyote on coyote predation were such a big factor in coyote population dynamics I would think it would be reported commonly in studies of the social behaviour of these interesting animals.


Soooo, how about a reference or two or three from recognized researchers.

Cheers
Drac


disco1946
(Mouse Dipper)
Thu Jun 05 2008 08:34 PM
Re: Tork and Whirlybird

One thing I do know to be a (Biological Fact) is that the Less Coyotes that are Killed by whatever means,in the summer months, the more TARGETS we will have in the Fall and Winter.

I rest OUR case

Disco



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