Cowboyvon
Druid
Reged: May 15 2005
Posts: 142
Loc: Rincon NM
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Here ya go ..and on horse back too. Looks like fun 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AItT4-wOPwc
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Bret
Whirling Dervish
Reged: Feb 10 2003
Posts: 51
Loc: Rapid City, SD
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That is unbelievable, where is it film. Talk about using a guided missile for hunting.
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Tackdriver
Big Hairy Gun Nut
Reged: Jan 31 2001
Posts: 2340
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
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Ive a fan of raptor hunting for as long as I can remember.
They are like "airdales in the air".
It takes a lot of work and time to develop a good bird, and you have to have a decent place to house the bird. Most folks (including me) dont have that kind of a building, so we cant have raptors, as the ownership of them is watched closely.
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I never saw a wild thing feel sorry for itself.--DH Lawerence
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Mike Harter
Avenging Angel
Reged: Nov 05 2000
Posts: 2426
Loc: Fresno, CA, USA
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You also have to have wide open spaces with a prey base so you can move to recover the bird. Building a house for them is the easy part; the hours it takes to develop the bird is the real challenge, particularly in our industrialized society.
Taking Wolves with Eagles raises Falconry to a new level. I can't believe they have camera'd up those birds. Very cool.
Drac: You've seen this I believe. Weigh in here.
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zim
Whirling Dervish
Reged: Feb 09 2003
Posts: 40
Loc: indiana/montana
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The most impressive part to me is the way that guy gallops his pony down that ice covered rock pile and grabs that wolf. I USED to think that I had some balls. Don't care what his politics or religion are, he's got my respect. zim
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Bob Mc
Mountian Lion
Reged: Oct 05 2000
Posts: 1696
Loc: Fort Jones, California, USA
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I saw something about this on TV several years ago, a National Geographic Special I believe. Somewhere in the former Soviet Union. It was a story about an old man who still believed in doing things the old way, and he was teaching his grandson. Showed them catching the eagle from the wild and training it. They mentioned hunting wolves, but only showed the bird catching a hare. Very interesting program.
When I was just a kid we used to keep some hawks for pets, mostly sparrow hawks. Can’t do that anymore without a special falconer’s license, and I think you have to jump through hoops to get one.
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coyotehombre
Druid
Reged: Sep 26 2005
Posts: 105
Loc: kansas
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When I lived out west I knew a guy that had a hawk. He has this really nice keep for it. I was wanting to get into it but he said you had to serve as an aprentice for several years before a master falconer would deem you worthy of having your own. When you start you are only allowed a certain type of bird, then you work your way up. It was a long and expensive process.
Awesome video. That guy is da man.
How would I be able to send that link to an email address?
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When asked how many coyotes did you guys kill with that .17? My son said "all of em".
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CALOK1
Flying Missionary Positioner
Reged: Nov 25 2002
Posts: 1099
Loc: Yukon Oklahoma
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coyotehombre,
Email sent on sending the video to someone.
Hope it works for you.
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CAL
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coyotehombre
Druid
Reged: Sep 26 2005
Posts: 105
Loc: kansas
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Got it. Thanks a bunch. 
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When asked how many coyotes did you guys kill with that .17? My son said "all of em".
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draculasbrother
Bishop
Reged: Oct 29 2001
Posts: 990
Loc: Langley, B.C., Canada
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Those guys love their birds like family members. They eventually release them back in to the wild if they survive. Mongols have a saying to the effect that "if you want to release your eagle do not fly him against wolves".
The wolves I have seen that were taken by eagles look to be on the smallish side of the spectrum. It was a real pleasure to watch that video. Whoever posted the link, thank you.
Those guys are great horsemen. The nomad children are basically on their own with horses from four or five years of age. They are alone guarding the livestock on horseback by six years of age. They do it every day in one of the coldest countries in the world. They are a lot like old time western ranchmen in terms predjudice against work that can not be done from pony back.
A few years ago a very good horse will cost about the same as a new Russian jeep and could on some roads get you across the country faster than the jeep. Once watched a mongol chap come over the rise behind us, slowly catch up with us, slow down to look us over as he passed by trailing his three ponies and then out of sight over the ridge in fron of us.
Drac
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ozdonna
Apostle of Humility
Reged: Jan 09 2008
Posts: 2
Loc: western kansas
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yeah
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swift4me
Apostle of Humility
Reged: Jun 17 2007
Posts: 17
Loc: Northern California
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I just tried to see it, and it has been removed.
Sounded great.
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Mark P
Administrator
Reged: Jun 21 2005
Posts: 1012
Loc: Arizona
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There's a famous horse race the Mongols do. I can't remember the name, but the video of it is stuck in my head forever. I thought following Doctor Tom was a rough ride. The truly amazing thing is that the horsemen diving down hills are really horseboys. I guess I did crazy things like that when I was their age, but my bicycle didn't go as fast. 
Drac, from the stories you told at the Rondy a few years back about your time in Mongolia, there's a lot one could learn from those folks. It's high on my list of places I want to visit.
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First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
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draculasbrother
Bishop
Reged: Oct 29 2001
Posts: 990
Loc: Langley, B.C., Canada
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It is the "Nadam" celebration where they exercise at all of the manly Mongolian sports: Horse racing, Archery and Wrestling. Nadam is for all the worl like the old mountain man rondevous. The tribal groups of Mongols come from all over the country, on horse back in large part. It is quite a show on the plains between the airport and U.B.
The horse races are cross country by youth riders. the winning horse is probably worth the price of a new Russian Jeep. The losers frequently die from being ridden to death.
The wrestling is sort of like watching grass grow. they compete in size classes. The two contestants go out on a field and walk around and talk to each other for any amount of time. From time to tome they will come to grips with each other. Then they may separate or watever except try to throw oneanother. This can go on for hours. Eventually one throws the other, usually very quickly when it happens. The winner becomes the classic BMO (Big Man on Campus). They can earn their living introducing businessmen to each other. I don't know how many times a stranger showed up at my office with a top wrestler dressed in his robs to serve as an introduction.
the archery is at a fairly long distance. the target is a little brown leather cup. The judge stand right next to the cup, like at arms reach. Never saw one hit, but again it is not at all like western or modern archery competitions.
Cheers
Dave
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